02 January 2010 @ 08:17 am
PINK MON...I mean BLUE CATS  
Got back from Avatar late last night and then pretty much crashed into bed because I'd been up for 20 hours straight or something ridiculous like that.

Overall, the story was predictable, but it was still lots of fun to watch. It was worth the money for the delicious eye candy, especially of Pandora, but the story was basically POCAHONTAS. IN. SPAAAACE.


- We saw the movie in 3D, which I'm really glad for. I fast realized why they artistically made 3D important for this movie, rather than just adding in 3D because "hey it's cool." If you're going to use a movie element like 3D, then it is something that you need to consider as a storytelling device, rather than a selling tickets device.
- Dayum but the design and animation for the alien world Pandora was so pretty. Those scenes were the most fun to watch, and made me a little jealous, just because I love inventing monsters and alien worlds like that, and I know I would've had a lot of fun trying to design stuff for a movie like this. That, and I'd like to know what sort of methods they used to get the mocap right, especially on facial animations. While I don't think mocap animation is ever going to surpass keyframe animation (just by the nature of keyframe having an element to it that mocap is not designed to replicate), this is probably as good as mocap can get. And even for the alien creatures like the black panther things, rhino things and dragon things, which wouldn't use mocap, they were all still very natural-looking and believable.
- On the flipside, all the scenes with the humans and their ships were a bit more of a yawn. The designs for that stuff I've seen a hundred times before, usually in Halo and Gears of War. The whole "grizzled space marine" genre really needs some kind of revamp anyway; it all looks the same to me. :\
- The characters were all fine, although I think Stephen Lang kinda overplayed his Grizzled Space Marine to the point where he was Grizzled Space Stereotype. I suppose the characters had about the same familiarity and complexity to them that they did in Titanic, so. And yeah, the story was familiar: HUMANS BAD, NATURE GOOD. White guys are horrible evil opportunists to native tribe, except for the one Really Nice White Guy who ends up joining the native tribe and saving them while also falling for the native princess. (Even his rival looked like a blue cat version of Kocoum!) Although about the main difference with this movie is that instead of the white guys and blue cats getting along, the blue cats pretty much go GTFO and kick out the humans.
- I'm kind of sad that Grace didn't survive as a Na'vi. Seriously, did they have to kill off every main character except for Jake and Neytiri?
- Heehee, Giovanni Ribisi.


So yeah, go see it, but it's probably best to go with the mindset of I WILL SEE TWO HOURS OF SHINY AND PRETTY instead of I WILL SEE TWO HOURS OF UNIQUE AND COMPELLING STORYTELLING.
 
 
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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_____faith/ on January 2nd, 2010 04:31 pm (UTC)
Norm's still alive!

but yes ia, I wish Grace and Trudy lived as well
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 05:00 pm (UTC)
Oh okay, I must've missed that! It seemed like he got blown up at one point.
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The Guindo[personal profile] theguindo on January 2nd, 2010 07:30 pm (UTC)
His Avatar got shot up, but he himself survived!
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 07:36 pm (UTC)
That would explain the thinking he got blown up part. :O
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[identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 04:55 pm (UTC)
I agree-- you could tell the story right off--- someone else called it "Dances in Wolves-- IN SPAAAAAAAACE with a bit of Last Samuari thrown in". :D So watch for the shiny and not how the storyline plays out. *laughs*

Norm still makes me laugh, because I watch Bones and he's Dr. Fisher in Bones.
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
It's kind of a shame that it didn't move out of cliche'd territory, considering how much shiny there was, but yeah. At least it was fun to watch.
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[identity profile] anzila.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 05:22 pm (UTC)
Seemed more like Ferngully...IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE
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[identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 06:05 pm (UTC)
That, too. :D It was like "can we shout the message anymore?" LOL, but it was fun to watch.
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[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 07:29 pm (UTC)
Bones even did an episode with Dr. Fisher, Dr. Sweets, and... one other guy going to see Avatar!

And, yeah, the movie is very pretty. And I like the Na'Vi... ^_^
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[identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
I think that's the part that made me giggle and stare at the screen in shock. :D
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[identity profile] bouncy-erbear.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 09:48 pm (UTC)
Trudy was my favorite character really. And I wish her and Grace had lived.

Yeah, and I thought of Pocahontas. You know what's REALLY funny though. Toward the beginning of the movie when the business dude is talking to Jake about taking the land there's a DREAM CATCHER in the background.

I can't remember now the scene EXACTLY, but I remember the fact that the dream catcher was here was extremely ironic.
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, Grace even seemed more interesting and well-developed than Jake. :/a (Although her avatar was kind of freaky-looking.)

LOL, seriously? SUBTLE THERE, JAMES CAMERON! I'll have to look next time.
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[identity profile] bouncy-erbear.livejournal.com on January 2nd, 2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah.

I can't remember WHEN exactly you can see it. I know it's sometime at the beginning and I think it was when he was telling Jake about the mineral they were there to dig up. It's in his office hanging on the wall. |D
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[identity profile] fairytaledreams.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 08:28 am (UTC)
I am so delayed but I just got home from seeing it
I cried over Grace. I fucking bawled over Grace. WHY DID SHE HAVE TO DIE ;o;

other than that it was pretty good. Definitely something to see for the pretty pictures and not the storyline.
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC)
I know, I was so expecting her to actually live on in her avatar! D: She was one of the most compelling characters, man, and it feels like they killed her off just to drive home the EEEEEVILNESS of the baddie (like we couldn't tell already.) I suppose it does mean that she got to be with Eywa when that's what she really wanted to see, but still, it feels unfair.
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[identity profile] fairytaledreams.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 05:59 pm (UTC)
I know right! She could have been kick ass in that final battle, man! And I totally got a muse for her during the first ten minutes she was on screen, so I cried harder for character bleed. sooooob - I mean, at least they were smart enough to have her say "She's real!" at the end, which actually made me happy, but STILL. She could have had so much fun living as a Na'vi and learning their ways even more. And the soul tree and just sdfkh I was pissed about that. Damnit, Grace deserved to live!
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
Oh damn, it's even worse with getting a muse. XO But yeah, I AM glad that they at least had Eywa be real and have Grace see her.
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[identity profile] fairytaledreams.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
Yeaaah I missed the next like... five minutes because I was crying so hard x.X - and yeah, definitely. I would have screamed and thrown a fit otherwise. it REALLY wouldn't have been fair if they hadn't added that in. Sob Grace.
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[identity profile] andromeda-2.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 04:46 pm (UTC)
Went to see this last night with my bro and two of his friends.

I thought it was OK, special effetcs were nice(Pandora is really, really really pretty), though the story is one you've seen hundreds of times before. I liked Grace and Trudy the most, and are sad they had to die =/ The battle scene between the humans and the Na'Vi at the end was the best, IMO \O/ still, a decent flick.

I'd love to see a story like this with the genders reversed, i.e, a female human visits and befriends the native alien population in another world, falls in love with one of the aliens, etc etc. I can't honestly think of any story where the reversed has been done >.>
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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
I know, everyone seems pissed that Grace and Trudy got offed...they were interesting characters, dangit, and it seems like they were just sacrificed to make OH NOES THE HORRORS OF WAR even worse. (Also it seems kinda unfair since I didn't care as much about Norm as I did Grace.)

Yeah see, JUST having that element would already make it more interesting! It's a female solider who's lost her legs in battle and decides to use an avatar and etc. Why hasn't someone done that yet?
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[identity profile] andromeda-2.livejournal.com on January 3rd, 2010 09:59 pm (UTC)
Yeah see, JUST having that element would already make it more interesting! It's a female soldier who's lost her legs in battle and decides to use an avatar and etc. Why hasn't someone done that yet?

I'm guessing(and quoting TV Tropes, lol how original)it's because Most Writers Are Male, and having your(human, male)hero hooking up with a hot alien space babe is some kind of hot nerd fantasy? Lol, I dunno, I mean this trope has existed since Star Trek I think /O/

*Sigh*I'd love to see more female main protagonists in Sci-Fi/Fantasy stories, period. Just as long as they aren't "men in skirts", so to speak.

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[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com on January 4th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
That's usually one of the biggest reasons behind the all-male presence in movies/TV/games: it's guys making things with the assumption that the primary audience is male. Even Pixar falls victim to this. :/ Unfortunately, it's really not something that can be changed until more women get involved in the industry, and that's already very tricky to do. (Especially in games, which I think is now...80-90% guys or something.)
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